Buffett: “Banking is a Very Good Business”
James Cullen
A while back, I looked at the non-financial components of the Dow Industrials to ascertain whether or not basic business models were solid. The strong ROAs earned by most firms, coupled with moderate leverage, show why many are regarded as best-of-breed.
Today, we’re taking a look at the other side of that – is the business model of banks as used in the past broken, or merely undergoing a correction?
To start with, banking profitability runs under the opposite model – a lower spread over assets, but with more leverage to compensate. It’s simply a fact of life, so it’s more important to focus on banks having reliable earning assets that compensate for the risk being taken. For a period of years, this wasn’t true – there was too much liquidity, which drove down spreads to extremely tight levels, even as the impatience behind capital meant too much flowed to questionable uses. Those assets have impaired the balance sheets of banks, large and small, and working through them will take time. Losses will need to be recognized, and the equity they eat into will need to be replaced through capital raises (likely on unfavorable terms to banks) or internally generated and retained profitability.
The prevailing view as to banks is very much oriented to the losses on their books, while ignoring future earnings that come from the changing competitive situation in banking. As I’ve said elsewhere, my evaluation process for investments in hostile markets is two-fold: first, whether or not the company in question can survive stressful conditions (i.e. balance sheet strength), and second, whether or not the earnings outlook for the survivors is positive. Taking either of those categories – or worse, both – and simply extrapolating the increasingly challenging conditions of the last few years into the future will result in a repeat of the exact same mistakes being made at the market top, only in the opposite direction.
Of course, nobody following that process will acknowledge as much outright. Instead, they’ll talk about how things were and how dismal the profit outlook currently is, while overlooking how the situation will evolve. The reality is, business conditions move in cycles, and competitive dynamics change throughout the cycle. How does this apply to banks?
One major change is that major depository banks can actually implement strong underwriting standards without worrying about losing all their business to originate-and-securitize shops. Not only have the options for customers seeking a mortgage been diminished, but with the yield curve showing a strong positive slope, spreads on lending have widened as well; this is the “silent bailout” of the financials, because cheaper deposits will save financial institutions tens of billions in interest expense annually. Although the current focus on financials’ balance sheets is “tangible common equity,” there is an excellent article from Fortune sharing Warren Buffett’s thoughts on the matter as it pertains to Wells Fargo (WFC), one of his holdings. Specifically, Buffett says:
And what you make money off of is customers. And you make money on customers by having a helluva spread on assets and not doing anything really dumb.
…You don’t make money on tangible common equity. You make money on the funds that people give you and the difference between the cost of those funds and what you lend them out on.
…To the extent that his tangible common equity is low, a) nobody was even talking about that a year ago. And b) they should be talking about earning power.
If you’re dealing in a commodity business, you need to focus on tangible common equity, because there is no pricing power lever available to increase earnings. Earnings in that scenario are a function of capital invested, although there is no value created above cost of capital. But this is not true for banking; their most important “asset” that drives earnings is actually a liability on the books – that being cheap and sticky deposits. In the case of Wells Fargo, run-rate interest expense on deposits has decreased from 1.78% in Q1 2008, to 0.50% in Q1 2009. On their current deposit base, that works out to a savings of nearly $10.2 billion – and this is just one bank, albeit one that does extremely well taking in low-cost deposits. What is the end result? Run-rate pre-tax, pre-provision profitability at Wells Fargo (WFC) in the last quarter was $36.8 billion. When combined with the existing $22.8 billion in credit reserves, that gives $60 billion in capacity to absorb lending losses over the next year.
How does Wells Fargo figure to perform going forward? Even though mortgage originations are down sharply, the company expanded its share to 16%, up from a prior peak of 13.3% in both 2002 and 2006, according to Inside Mortgage Finance. Market share in mortgage servicing also reached 16% in 2008, up from 13.2% in the previous two years. In other words, as others are pulling back or leaving the game entirely because of prior poor practices, Wells can take a larger share of the remaining business at more favorable terms.
Of course, since the March lows, shares of Wells Fargo – and many other banks – have surged a multiple of their price. At 3.1x pre-tax, pre-provision profit, shares still aren’t that expensive, and the trust preferreds have tightened to around 80 cents on the dollar to offer a high single-digit yield. I’m not crazy about adding risk at current prices, and have finally grown wary enough of that I raised cash yesterday. Further, I have been too busy, and want to reassess where and how I’m invested in light of earnings releases and other data points.

A closing note: this week, I will be in New York City for a few days, before going to hear esteemed Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke speak. I do not know whether I will have the time to write, although I hope to do so.
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Disclosure: Thanks to the Corporate Communications team at Wells Fargo for the mortgage data.
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May 19th, 2009 at 5:58 am
Very good article, thanks. Just as Kovacevich sees himself as retailer it might pay investors to view and analyse banks as (highly leveraged) retailers.
May 22nd, 2009 at 11:28 am
Bryan,
The main trouble with that is, banking is a business where cost of goods sold isn’t immediately known… so although you’re targeting a “retail” customer, I don’t know how you’d extend the comparison. I’d imagine it’s better to segment banks by primary focus - i.e., retail deposits, construction lending, etc., with respect to geographic exposure as well.
May 26th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Very good article though as usual I disagree with most of what you say. You start with the premise that Buffet is right and then work backwards which I find problematic. He may be right on average, and you cherry picked the wrong one. I’ve suffered this problem with Klarman before and was lucky enough to go with my own analysis as opposed to the analysis that matches the star.
There is also a simple fact that i think you may be missing Buffet’s point. Banks do have a lot of earnings power given the leverage they are allowed to take and their general underwriting by the govt, with mispriced FDIC etc. As long as this goes on and no one is brave enough to actually call time on this game, taking bets on banks is a good idea. After all a bank position is like an equity position in company with cov lite liabilities - who wouldn’t want that, and havent you enhanced the value of the equity option? Your only problem is if the broader community gets smarter and realizes they are being taken advantage of. This (I suspect/agree) will not happen, and the administration would rather keep playing 3-card monte rather than have the charade fall down on their watch. This is what makes it a good trade - a perverse risk reward scheme. Nothing else. You know this is true because you would never allow yourself to invest in such a scheme if your next door neighbour approached you with the idea. Why pay money for a share of equity in a bank that is insolvent (i.e. has no equity)?? Because you know it can earn its way out, and no one will shut it down - hence the cov lite reference. Think St petersburg paradox, and what is this gamble worth?
These arent good businesses per se, they are good schemes until they arent, just like Fannie or Sallie Mae were. Their earnings power is artificial and really the value of their name and franchise is non existent. See how comfortably we have thrown away the names of Merrill, Lehman, Bear, Washington Mutual etc..
June 5th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Smartass,
Sorry for the delayed reply. I hear what you’re saying - there are definitely perverse incentives in banking, and the regulatory rules can cause more harm than good… though I have a bunch of articles queued up from weeks past about shifting growing FDIC fees to larger banks, restructuring depository share caps to limit systemic risk, etc. - I’m batting around the idea of a long-term industry structure which is going to enormously favor large regionals.
I agree that most franchise values are overblown, and bank stocks trading for 3x book or whatever is probably stupid. But if what you’re saying about no value creation is true, you’d never pay more than 1x book for a bank stock, correct? Hope you read this, because I’d like to develop this line of thought.
Anyways, thanks for the good comment…
-James
June 9th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Ah good; i still havent figured out the answer to riddle or rather whether I am willing to trade on the answer but here is what little I have. You would pay more than BV simply because whoever is able to command the rent seeking positions that banks have will make money. How much that position is worth is the problem, but the fact that we have ascertained that as equity holders you have limited downside, favored and subsidized returns, and your creditors are protected by the state and thus unlikely to monitor or call the debt, means you have a good position and should starting betting. Once upon a time, going insolvent meant creditors would be calling debts etc and equity wiped out (with covenants you would never even get this far). Now the bank has free reign despite no real equity value, its stake is now underwritten and its earnings are now subsidized - surely this is worth something. This is the value I would be paying up for.
Anyway you know all this - the point is I dont know how the govt extricates itself from this position. Bank borrowing levels will forever be cheaper than their real risk because of the implicit guarantee from the state; whether banks will pass this cheaper cost of funds onto the consumer remains to be seen, but why would an oligopoly pass on the fruits of its position? One should also ask if we are not creating a system with even more leverage than the original problem.
As to regulation that favors regionals etc. I see it more likely that we stick with the flawed state of affairs that we have, simply because there are large vested interests involved, and the patsy in this game (the taxpayer) doesnt know what is happening. Regulation will be minimal and politically driven with the guy with the deepest pockets winning. Being involved with banks is the only way I see to take advantage of this wealth transfer. So I guess the question is why cant i bring myself to actually buy these banks!