EBAY: Personal Dissatisfaction, Investor Doubt, and I’m Gone
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Stephen Frankola sends: Just a few months ago, I defended eBay’s business as it was being attacked on all fronts; fee hikes had disenfranchised big sellers, who were being lured by Amazon’s fulfillment program.
I proclaimed confidence in eBay’s marketplace, even as they began to squeeze too many pennies out of small sellers like myself (peddling my ski wax, Whacks Wax), right as Amazon.com was allowing sellers to list their items for free. I also noted that PayPal was much of the reason to invest in eBay’s stock. PayPal still is a great brand, but Google is pushing hard to popularize its payment processing service, Google Checkout, by offering new buyers a free $10 discount on their first purchase.
My problem with eBay, the corporation, has grown from a personal problem, but I feel as though it also sheds light on many of the issues currently facing eBay, and it shows that they may be failing to properly address those issues.
I have been selling various goods on eBay for over five years through three different accounts. I began selling trinkets, mirroring eBay’s promoted image as a worldwide 24/7 garage sale. However, a few years ago, I invented and began selling my own ski wax, and eBay was a great market place to promote a brand in its infancy.
Over the years, I have sold approximately $10,000 of goods through eBay. My average selling price was no more than $10, so I logged about 1,000 transactions through the different accounts. Considering that eBay charges a listing fee, a final value fee, promotional fees (I often did choose featured listings to attract attention), and most of my payments were processed through PayPal (which charges a base fee AND a percentage of the transaction), I would estimate that I generated $1000-2000 of revenues for eBay and its entities over the years.
Now, in an effort to promote “marketplace security,” the account that I sold ski wax through (which generated the majority of personal revenue and eBay fees) has been permanently suspended. The account’s feedback rating (the metric that eBay uses to establish confidence in transactions) is excellent, with a 97+% positive rating, including about 400 total positive transactions. The other two household accounts also may be suspended - each of them was sporting a 99% positive rating.
However, the very last transaction I conducted resulted in a negative feedback, and because of some silly computer search eBay must conduct, my account was blacklisted and suspended. (An aside: The circumstance was unusual, and I refunded the customer’s money right after negative feedback was left, so the transaction was resolved. My integrity as a seller remains intact.) eBay suspended the account because of a “result of your violation of site policy on Seller Non-Performance” because I “generated unacceptable levels of buyer dissatisfaction in your transactions.” This is solely based on the one most recent feedback.
A reasonable person could see that I have established and re-established credibility as a merchant. A reasonable company would allow real customer service people to review and overturn suspensions such as mine when their computers clearly take transactions out of context. However, eBay seemingly will not let customer service employees breach official policy, even if the situation merits it.
eBay clearly has issues policing its increasingly-dangerous marketplace, and this is an example of an overreaction that may have broader implications. As many larger sellers are already flocking to Amazon or other auction websites, fleeing the stranglehold of the new fees eBay has imposed, eBay should not be barring willing merchants from using the website. Yes, this may be an isolated, individual incident, but it is an example of policy and bureaucracy of an inefficiently-large corporation destroying the very nuances that led to its success.
Whacks Wax will survive. I already began using Amazon.com’s fulfillment system last year, which streamlines my operations and makes selling my product immensely easier. An eBay presence was certainly beneficial to the company, but this past winter it accounted for the smallest percentage of sales yet. The nostalgia of eBay, where I had built my company from the ground up, may have been one factor that continued to attract me to the increasingly expensive marketplace.
Bigger niche sellers have no need for eBay anymore. Amazon is a worldwide marketplace that attracts deal-seekers just like eBay, except they charge no upfront fees. Merchants leaving eBay can spend the money that would have paid on fees (in my case, between 10-40% of final selling price) to invest in their business or advertise, and probably more than make up for lost sales.
eBay will always exist as a marketplace to promote knickknacks, but its heyday as a serious marketplace seems to have already passed . Now, through websites like pricegrabber.com and shopping.com (eBay owns the latter), consumers can quickly and easily find the cheapest price for a good, instead of having to devote hours to manual browsing as they would have to have done in the past (which led to bidding on eBay, a relatively-cheap marketplace). Powersellers with significant draw can simply promote their own websites, which requires a greater sunk cost but little (if any) incremental costs compared to eBay selling. As Amazon.com continues to expand into groceries, people may become accustomed to look there as a first place for anything they desire, not eBay, as may have been the case in the past.
Luckily for shareholders, eBay’s non-core businesses are continuing to grow the company as the auction marketplace has stagnated. PayPal is still the only widely accepted online payment processer, and no matter how many $10 credits Google throws at consumers to encourage them to use their checkout, PayPal’s dominance should continue. PayPal is also now being used unconventionally, as family may send remittances cross-border through PayPal, and traditional merchants (airlines, etc.) are now accepting it.
Skype also seems to finally be gaining some traction, and eBay has already written off most of the (ultra-inflated) value of the purchase it made a few years ago. Integration into the auction website has made Skype more relevant as corporations and consumers have simultaneously started to use it. Skype is now a positive contributor to the eBay brand, and if eBay chooses to get rid of it, they could probably sell it for more than the value they now have booked.
Still, the Street continues to look at the auction website as the most important component of eBay’s businesses (which it is). That business is no longer growing. The exodus of Powersellers and banning of lowly, innocent, above-average sellers will not help stop the bleeding. eBay needs to focus on re-attracting the big sellers, possibly creating a different way for them to list items (think eBay stores, but better) that can rival the appeal of Amazon.com. If the core business continues to decline, it will be hard to make up that gap with the growth of other the brands.
I am angry and disappointed enough by my ordeal to sell my stake in eBay. Investments shouldn’t be an emotional decision, but I cannot have confidence in a brand that has treated me, a shareholder and merchant, so horribly. With few exceptions, brands with poor customer service are eventually passed over in favor of competitors that treat them better - I had personal phone calls with an Amazon Fulfillment representative a handful of times before I even set up an account, but I can’t even get a non-automated response when I’ve made eBay thousands of dollars. My decision was made for me, but it was time to move on anyway. eBay, I don’t need you, and many other sellers don’t either. Even if you don’t kick them out, they’ll eventually leave.
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April 10th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
I’m afraid I must completely agree with this blog.
I have been an eBay Super Seller for about 5 years now. Up until this past week, I have shipped a moderate to fair amount of sales out using eBay/PayPal systems. I must insert here that with all the fee increases we have not actually come out ahead on very many transactions. We have a small business and would not be considered large by any means, but we have been shipping about $3,000-$5,000 in sales out per month. With a 100% feedback rating and the required customer service satisfaction. (I must at this point mention this rating is like accepting a skewed poll, in which the questions and people are rigged to get very specific and desired result.)
Our eBay account has also been taken from us due to the policing in which makes eBay a dangerous marketplace for sellers. I believe it must be noted that it does not matter how many years you have been following current eBay policy, how satisfied your customers are, or what your merits are as a seller -there is a pretty good chance that eBay will push you out for some infraction or another without warning. If they do this, they do not refund your fees or return the money you’ve spent to list items - they have it set up so that you are just cut off.
As eBay sellers we have directed customers to our eBay store using business cards. We evidently violated a “policy” inadvertently. The violation of promoting our eBay store was such a large one that our eBay store listings were removed (no refund of listing fees) and we have been suspended as sellers. We had no email or phone calls letting us know that anything was amiss.
One afternoon we logged on to complete the daily shipment and all of our listings were cancelled and our customers were asking what had occurred.
I contacted eBays “Trust and Safety” – which again I must point out is a rather interesting name for a department that is actually making the marketplace dangerous for sellers – to find out what had occurred. I was told that I couldn’t be given extra information as this was internal and the privacy policy would not allow further discussion. I had violated a policy and they would be happy to send me a link where I could read about this policy.
I was sent the following quote by an eBay representative reviewing my case. Quote “…you have made efforts to better publicize your eBay store. By reaching out to people of people you know you may have inadvertently violated policy. I’ve always encouraged our members to steer away from activity that may implicate them in a policy violation…to avoid unintentional violations of policy, some seller’s place buyers on their block list.”
I encourage you to make your own decision on this quote. However, as a seller it really bothers me that giving out business cards could have “inadvertently violated policy” and would be such a problem that an eBay store would be immediately taken away with no reimbursement of any listing fees or notice.
eBay claims to want all sellers to treat buyers with exceptional care, communication and customer service - and yet when it comes to the eBay customers (which are eBay sellers) the same exceptional care, communication, and customer service is not extended. How can a business maintain if all functions aren’t in complete understanding and agreement? There is truly no “Trust and Safety” for buyers or sellers.
I’ve spent years working to have a quality, safe and trustworthy eBay store. We have continually worked to keep up with the constantly changing eBay community and rules. This has become more work than it is worth. Our eBay store has been a side job and was created for me to keep track of the marketing potential. I have been a strong supporter of the eBay market place, but feel that I have misplaced my support. In my marketing research conference presentations I have always had high recommendations for the eBay market place due to my previous positive experiences. However, I will be withdrawing my strong support along with my eBay store.
In my case, I was not called or emailed about any problems with my store or selling/buying customers. I had no way to rectify or request any changes. No chance to block buyers or even find out about any problems.
With so many different rules and the constant changes it has become apparent that unlike many other locations, who desire to have sellers and actually work to make environments safe by being actively involved and helpful to the sellers, eBay has become a location that does not value the sellers enough to note a problem and actively work to teach or keep them around. It is apparent that sellers are not valued enough to have a moment taken to contact them should there be a problem that could almost always be rectified or changed if given the opportunity.
I have pondered the reason for this. Do the powers that be just want to retain listing and store fees? If you do encounter a problem with any type of violation (true or false - because buyers or other sellers can report any accurate or inaccurate information) there is a chance that you are going to fall into a non-refund category.
Due to my personal suspension, I have cancelled my eBay store and subscriptions - along with my support. I will not be actively supporting eBay any longer. My loyal customers who wish to continue to purchase from me will do so at alternate locations and will no longer affect the eBay community. We have only made the eBay community a better place and have not truly infringed any policy.
eBay removed all our listings and it takes too long to relist everything - eBay has successfully created an unsafe selling environment. As the economy declines and sellers seek safe selling places, I will be hard pressed not to mention my eBay selling experience over the past several years and how I have been rewarded for my diligence and hard work. I am unsure why eBay would want to push sellers out. Small sellers and businesses are so important to the US economy. Without the producers and sellers the United States is nothing. Without producers and sellers, we are only consumers and China would own us.
April 10th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
SuperSeller,
Thanks for writing this - one of the great things about having a site is the information flow from those who are involved with various companies. Previously, I assumed that EBay had a great business model, but apparently they don’t like to have customers…
July 14th, 2009 at 4:11 am
EbAY IS ALREADY GONE. they just haven’t caught on yet - an oppressive paypal parisitism along with the historical paypal rudeness and exclusivity has doomed them - and good riddance. They’re the Chase Bank of the auction age - greed, zero humility, and disgusting profiteering all contribute to a Bush-era regurgitation of a diseased mindset reminiscent of a bygone age of republican greed. I can’t express my disgust strongly enough. They’ve been in bed with the Gates, the Cheneys and the rest of that crowd forever, and the smell alone is nauseating. Wake up. Its a new world. Organizations like this are finished. The future is soon and none too.. Sellers - take back your independence and be MEN. Stop sucking up to this colonial bullshit. Have some self respect.
July 14th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Not many people have goals like that.